Posts by franklin J

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The end is near!

by pratt1 in

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i went to a funeral this weekend of a much loved older brother.

more about that on another tread.. anyway, some one came up to me and said, that these are "the last of the last days".

i nearly fell off my chair in laughter.. what funny sayings have you heard from dubs, describing the "last days".

...I ran into the mother of an old JW friend. He was one of those not so theocratic types while I was a full time pioneer. He got married young; had a few kids; was miserable and left his wife and kids. He had no job or career; typical menial JW minimum wager

His mother recognized me at the chiropractors office and asked me how I was. When I replied that I was no longer a JW, but had happily built a new life for myself, she scoffed and said " do you know how close we are to the end?"

"really? and how is raymond?"

she replied proudly " oh Raymond is at Gilead"

"Really? And what about his wife and kids, I did not know they allowed families at Gilead.."

She evidently thought better of catching herself in a lie, and her son was clearly the type to have skipped out o child support; and she said to me "..you know I should not even be talking to you".

HAH! Good riddance, Raymonds Mom; and take your preaching with you.

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Bigger Than A Jumbo.

by Englishman in

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the airbus a 380 was unveiled today.. it's a european joint venture.

the wings, undercarriage and engines are british.

the uk sections are made locally and should create over 100,000 jobs.

franklin J

the unveiling of this new aircraft looks incredible. It looks like a return to the era of "gracious" travel. I wonder what its flight is like

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Can someone take me through what it means to start/do a "study"?

by wordlywife in

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when i attended with my husband, (i am not jw, he is over 20 yrs.

) i was asked many times who i was studying with, are you studying, etc.

i didn't know what they meant, husband never pressures me with this kind of questioning.

franklin J

well, wordlywife,

If your husband has been a JW for 20 years, he must not be all that dedicated to the faith--or they would not have allowed him to marry you ( due to your non JW status); an outsider. They do not tolerate or allow marriages outside the faith.

Yes, they do have a hidden agenda, and that is to report hours of preachiing and numbers of Bible studies.

Once you start to study; you will be expected to comply to Watchtower requirements for their followers. You will be required to give up friendships and family members who ARE NOT JWs; and be expected to go out in the preaching work. Despite any feigning of friendship or concern for you; their primary objective is to start a bible strudy with you and convert you.

More ciritical and of concern is that they will expect you to give up any vestiges of making your own decisions or thinking for yourself. The Watchtower will do your thinking for you and tell you what to do in all matters; including your marriage; your children and their future. It is not a religion for people who can think for themselves.

It is that simple.

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Can someone take me through what it means to start/do a "study"?

by wordlywife in

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friends

when i attended with my husband, (i am not jw, he is over 20 yrs.

) i was asked many times who i was studying with, are you studying, etc.

i didn't know what they meant, husband never pressures me with this kind of questioning.

franklin J

well, wordlywife,

If your husband has been a JW for 20 years, he must not be all that dedicated to the faith--or they would not have allowed him to marry you ( due to your non JW status); an outsider. They do not tolerate or allow marriages outside the faith.

Yes, they do have a hidden agenda, and that is to report hours of preachiing and numbers of Bible studies.

Once you start to study; you will be expected to comply to Watchtower requirements for their followers. You will be required to give up friendships and family members who ARE NOT JWs; and be expected to go out in the preaching work. Despite any feigning of friendship or concern for you; their primary objective is to start a bible strudy with you and convert you.

More ciritical and of concern is that they will expect you to give up any vestiges of making your own decisions or thinking for yourself. The Watchtower will do your thinking for you and tell you what to do in all matters; including your marriage; your children and their future. It is not a religion for people who can think for themselves.

It is that simple.

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Can someone take me through what it means to start/do a "study"?

by wordlywife in

jw
friends

when i attended with my husband, (i am not jw, he is over 20 yrs.

) i was asked many times who i was studying with, are you studying, etc.

i didn't know what they meant, husband never pressures me with this kind of questioning.

franklin J

well, wordlywife,

If your husband has been a JW for 20 years, he must not be all that dedicated to the faith--or they would not have allowed him to marry you ( due to your non JW status); an outsider. They do not tolerate or allow marriages outside the faith.

Yes, they do have a hidden agenda, and that is to report hours of preachiing and numbers of Bible studies.

Once you start to study; you will be expected to comply to Watchtower requirements for their followers. You will be required to give up friendships and family members who ARE NOT JWs; and be expected to go out in the preaching work. Despite any feigning of friendship or concern for you; their primary objective is to start a bible strudy with you and and convert you.

More ciritical and of concern is that they will expect you to give up any vestiges of making your own decisions or thinking for yourself. The Watchtower will do your thinking for you and tell you what to do in all matters; including your marriage; your children and their future. It is not a religion for people who can think for themselves.

It is that simple.

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Jw view of resurrection: will it be you who is resurrected???

by chuckyy in

i have always had a problem even when a jw with the wtbs view on the bodily resurrection.

if your body is destroyed following death, and there is no soul, what then is being resurrected???.

?.....its a new body and only a recording of your thoughts that was in gods memory that is put into this new body......how can it truly be the same person???

franklin J

...truth is chuckyy, there REALLY IS a new world out there....really; and a resurrection too..

I was resurrected and am living in that new world now, and it really IS a paradise!

...translated into JW lingo...:"he fell away from the truth and is wordly now"

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Who was told that the New order would be here before......................

by avishai in

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they finished high school?

college?

etc and what year were you told?.

franklin J

I was from the time that clearly knew that 1975 would bring the end. I was asking my father to let me quit school and full time pioneer like my 2 older sisters, Dad said no; I had to finish high school. I graduated high school in 1974 ( very quietly with no fanfare) and went right into full time pioneering. Yep, I wanted that first class ticket to the new world..... all these years later i can say, "Thanks Dad, for your forsight.."..

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The president of cong. has invited me to dinner and a little "talk"

by filip in

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the president of our congregation has invited me and a couple of other young people from the cong.

to dinner on friday and then to watch the new "youth: how to make good friends" video, and then have a little "talk" about it.. though, im fearing that "talk" is going to be a little bit more serious than just a relaxed night out.. should i go?

franklin J

do you want to go? if so; then attend.

If you DO NOT want to go; politely tell him you have previous plans and will be unable to accept. Important for you to ACKNOWLEDGE his invitation, though.

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